Comments on: Two Herniated Discs and My Road to Recovery https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/ Backcountry skiing, biking, hiking in Crested Butte, Colorado & beyond - Created by Brittany Konsella & Frank Konsella Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:36:07 +0000 hourly 1 By: Alex https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/#comment-23859 Thu, 11 Feb 2021 01:36:07 +0000 https://dev.14erskiers.com/?p=5791#comment-23859 To everyone who has shared on this blog: thank you for your perspective. I am a bodyworker specializing in Myofascial release. I was diagnosed with an L4-L5 herniation almost two months ago and have found much success incorporating Mckenzie method extension exercises and MFR methods which encourage longer holds of the positions and recognize the emotional aspect of healing.

Even after ten plus years of chronic back pain and a history of physical trauma that likely started and fueled it, this diagnosis has let me feeling very discouraged, but I cling to my progress. So far, I have avoided injections and surgery by starting my healing process with 5 days on muscle relaxers and a 7-day oral steroid pack. That gave my body the relaxation needed to simply begin laying down comfortably in the McKenzie Method poses.

I am an avid recreational equestrian and have been able to ride occasionally. I find that bending over and lifting heavy objects tends to set me back a bit. I am supported by a wonderful partner who spent about two weeks initially helping me with normal activities as simply getting out of bed was a struggle.

Long car rides, bike riding, and sitting/standing for prolonged periods absolutely worsen my condition. I have gained hope from self MFR treatment, largely focused on releasing the psoas, with a 4-inch soft ball. My PCP also shared that she has avoided surgery on four disc herniations. She suggested an inversion table.

I appreciate what everyone else has shared and hope that this may also help someone else. A big thank you you Brittany for the original post. Like her, I currently spend several hours each day on rehab strategies/self-treatment.

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By: Matt https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/#comment-23842 Thu, 17 Sep 2020 12:57:16 +0000 https://dev.14erskiers.com/?p=5791#comment-23842 Hi Brittany,

I have a bulging disc at L5-S1. I am very proactive with my injury, seeking out as many perspectives/opinions as I can. I saw the exercises that you do on a daily basis, however, most of the hyperlinks no longer work. I wanted to know if you have made an updated stretching/exercise routine. No worries if you have not. Thanks!

Best,

Matt

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By: stealurfaceJenny https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/#comment-22519 Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:01:15 +0000 https://dev.14erskiers.com/?p=5791#comment-22519 Large randomized controlled studies show that surgery is no better than conservative care for long-term outcomes. https://www.bmj.com/content/336/7657/1355.short
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/204281
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439590600056X
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00586-010-1603-7

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By: Sarah https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/#comment-22266 Thu, 27 Oct 2016 13:02:32 +0000 https://dev.14erskiers.com/?p=5791#comment-22266 Hi all, I agree with Brittany- I am not a skier, but an avid horseback rider. I herniated L4/L5 a month ago doing all the stuff you do when you own horses- lifting hay, feed bags, etc. Progress is very slow, but I have seen gradual improvements. I am very fortunate that I do not have the sciatica- just a little numbness that travels into my butt cheek on the right side- but that seems to be related to muscle cramping more than nerve issues. My biggest thing is locked up muscles and anxiety- initially I freaked out because my mind told me I’d never ride horses again or be normal, and I am, and was so scared to move all my muscles (low back and butt) that they just seem to stay locked all the time. I am exploring all avenues of recovery- I have seen a regular chiropractor who put me on traction and adjustments, a chiropractor that does kinesiology and nutritional supplementation, a PT and an acupuncturist. the traction and regular adjustments I have found cause more pain…the PT is a bit scary so far but Im doing it, the acupuncture is like a miracle for reducing the muscle cramping and pain, the supplementation has done wonders for my anxiety, energy, motivation to move and hopefully its helping my body repair. I have backed off on the regular adjustments and traction as they cause more pain and my kinesiologist does not feel I have a chiropractic problem- just an injury- I have had regular chiropractic care on and off over my lifetime. I have also found solace in prayer and knowing that God wants me to be healed. Even though right now its hard to imagine sitting on a horse, I plan to be back to doing it by this coming spring and I’ll do whatever I need to, to get there. Brittany is right- explore different things and go with the things that make you feel better- listen to your body- no Dr. knows it better than you do- they cant feel what your feeling. Lastly, once I am feeling much better I plan to start a blog on recovery from this sort of thing. I am mortified with the stories that I have read on the internet for people with similar issues…although I am sure they are real issues and I feel very badly for those that have not recovered or are in continual serious pain, there are very few success stories- maybe the people that get better just get better and don’t look back and write about their progress. If those that feel better would do this it might give hope to others that feel hopeless. See Ephesians 6:10

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By: Alan G. Smith https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/#comment-22086 Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:46:59 +0000 https://dev.14erskiers.com/?p=5791#comment-22086 Congrats four your recovery Brittany!
I think your tips are very usefull for all the person who are suffering from back pain. However, I recommend you a good book to read that can give you all the resources to treat herniated disc with Osteopathy and the results after 25 years of treating it. It is called ‘Osteopathic treatment of low back pain and sciatica caused by disc prolapse’ written by François Ricard. You can find it in here
http://medoslibrosalud.com/en/osteopathy/114-osteopathic-treatment-of-the-low-back-pain-and-sciatica-caused-by-disc-prolapse.html

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By: Indecisive https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/#comment-22046 Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:25:33 +0000 https://dev.14erskiers.com/?p=5791#comment-22046 In reply to Tim Thompson.

An update on my case one year later. I ended up having the surgery at the end of April 2015. If I would have been seeing ANY type of progress I wouldn’t have done the surger, but I was getting weaker and feeling more pain, numbness on a daily basis. I would have to sit down after walking for 5-10 minutes and it ruined my 2014-15 ski season and our spring break — which was the last straw for me. Even though the science shows that eventually your body will absorb the intrusion, I unfortunately wasn’t one of the lucky ones where that happens early on. I didn’t want to live like that for the next 6-8 years and run the risk of permanent nerve damage.

So nearly a year later I’m pretty happy with my decision. They fused my L5-S1 and replaced my disc with an artificial sponge. The recovery has been a series of highs and lows. First couple weeks were really tough, as expected after major surgery, but I made good progress every day. By 3 weeks I was out walking a 2-3 miles a day. Months 2-3 were really promising and I was really committed to doing the PT and walking 5-7 miles every day. I thought I’d be back in full health by month 6 (Tiger Woods thought the same thing). Then reality set in when I went back to work full time. Progress and activity slowed down to a halt, and I had a few set backs of more pain then normal. Between months 4-8 I really questioned whether the surgery worked and if I’d be back out on the mountain any time this year. But once ski season started coming around and we booked a few trips I pushed myself to be more active during the week and go out there on the mountain as many days as I could. The first few days were a real struggle. Leg strength was totally gone and every jiggle and bump seem to radiate up my spine. I couldn’t make it a quarter way down a green without stopping and I probably looked horrible trying to keep my body clinched. I was with my 6 yr old so it wasn’t a big deal and I was happy just being out there with her, but I knew I needed to ease myself back into skiing shape. By Day 6 or 7 I was pushing more, doing a few harder runs on my own but taking my time, soaking in the tub at night to keep any swelling down, stretching, etc. Now by day 20 I’m able to charge relatively hard, chase the powder stashes, and haven’t had any type of real back pain to mention. As I type this sitting down in my office, I can still feel the little knot in my lower back and buttocks, but it’s nothing compared to this time last year and it is no longer holding me back. The doc said that the 2 years of nerve compression, may require up to 2 years of non-compression for the body to go back to “normal”. Not sure I remember “normal”, but I’m in better shape then I was a year go so for me it was worth the pain of getting to this point. I sincerely hope for everyone that their body can resolve it naturally through PT, exercise, stretching! Best of luck!

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By: Tim Thompson https://dev.14erskiers.com/2013/08/two-herniated-discs-and-my-road-to-recovery/#comment-22043 Wed, 16 Mar 2016 19:04:09 +0000 https://dev.14erskiers.com/?p=5791#comment-22043 I agree that we should learn to listen to our bodies. In 1986, I had a herniated disc at L4-L5. This was considered a “large” protrusion. I was essentially crippled for 6-8 months. I have always been a free-heel skier, backpack high routes, and a distance runner. I was numb from my waste down to the balls of my feet. I felt as if my feet were the size of basketballs. I was so damned scared and frightened. I literally could not walk. The orthopedic specialist suggested I do not rush into surgery. I went the route of four weeks of PT with most of my work involving the McKenzie exercises and stretches. It took a year and I got better! I was left with some residual nerve sensations in the balls of both feet, but eventually went back to running, big mountain backcountry tele-skiing, and backpacking with 35 – 40 pound packs.

This past October (2015) I herniated L5S1 while moving some large rounds of wood. I have had slight recurring back issues off and on since 1986, but I always resolved these with some simple stretches and decompression exercises. This time, I had a pain that dropped me to my knees in tears and fear. I did not go to any doctors, as I felt this would go away. I had a bit of slight issue with my bladder, and some serious numbing and tingling down my right side, calf, and outside of right foot. I could barely walk. I did extension exercises, used ice and got a prescription of 500 mg Naproxen that I took 4 times per day. After a month, the nerves settled down and I was able to walk about two miles. In December, I finally went to see my MD and we had an xray taken of my lumbar region. You could clearly see that my L4-L5-S1 complex was screwed up. This lead to an MRI that took another month to wait for. In the meantime, I increased my daily walking to 2-3 miles and cross-country skied twice per week. I could tele-turn to the right, but their was no way I could pressure my right foot and make a left-turn arc.

The 3-Tesla MRI was done in Medford, OR and the results devastated me! If anyone would like to see the MRI’s send me an email at lognotrees@yahoo.com and I will send you two views. You will wonder how any signal can get out of my back. The blown out L5S1 cuts off nearly 80% of my spinal nerve route! The next step was to see a neurosurgeon, This took another month (late February, 2016.) He felt that I really needed to have the protrusion and other material removed from around the spinal nerve bundle. He offered no other options. The truth is that I was getting better and it had been 14 weeks since the injury. My bladder symptoms had abated, and I mostly had

I went home and thought about surgery for a week and decided I would put a bit more effort into my own recovery. I picked up my walking and hiking to 4-6 miles four times per week. I do stretches and extensions twice a day. My nerves burn and tingle, and my feet go numb, but I am getting better without surgery. I tried a bit of AT skiing on Mount McLoughlin this past weekend and did a pretty good job at faking technique. I don’t know what the future will bring. What I do know is that when I blew out L4L5 in 1986, I got 30 more years of a good life before this latest S1 issue. In fact, the recent MRI shows a bulge at L4L5, but the protrusion and massive herniation from 1986 is completely gone. It was absorbed. Amazing!

I am going to keep living with my pain and nerve issues and give this current problem three more months. As long as I keep gaining slowly, I am going to forego surgery. Some days are really bad, but when I think back to early October, I have made great progress.

I wanted to share this as there is plenty of research now that suggests if one can tolerate a bit of pain and weakness, there is excellent hope for those of us with massive disc herniations. Surgery is not necessarily the best option. As always, everyone’s mileage will vary, but take the time to do some research.

Thanks for letting me share this. Maybe my long comment will help others.

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